michelle obama is a much more known entity. she's in a lot of ways i think widely accepted to be one of the president's most powerful surrogates. what do you think she needs to do in terms of driving home the message that her husband is doing the most effective job possible, is prioritizing the middle class and the american economy? >> in an odd way, i think she is very different from ann romney. ann romney is not a professional politician. michelle obama is not a professional politician, either, but she has become something of one in the last four years. she has spoken off of a teleprompter, for instance. ann romney had never done that before. they will be judged differently. i think she needs to sell her husband both in terms of the middle class, in terms of policies but i think she also needs to paint this portrait of him as a husband, as a father, as sort of an every day guy because realistically, that is what ann romney was doing about her own husband. i think that michelle obama as we said is widely accepted as a terrific